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General DiscussionIs Hoodwink's ult too good

Is Hoodwink's ult too good in General Discussion
ETd

    You charge for 3 seconds to get the max, then you hit someone for 600 damage on top of 50% moveslow and break for 6 seconds. At level 3 you're hitting for 1400 damage.
    The damage is nuts, but I think the debuff(s) are what can be too good because it's linear. Shouldn't it scale per level? Like, 4/5/6 seconds, or 30/40/50% moveslow, gain break at level 2, etc?
    Even with minimal charge, the damage & debuff is like 350 damage + 3 second break & moveslow. IDK, you guys tell me if you think "she needs it, the rest of her kit sucks"

    Apipe

      My Ursa can make over 3000 damage in 3 seconds. I think it's not a good damage but ....lazy comment... :lick:

      nice impact

        buy a hood vs hoodwink

        ScaredyCat

          Which is why hoodwink is a strong support as he does not need any items to do amazing amounts of damage. Basically you just need to max out bushwhack and once you are at level 7, you can deal 960 magical damage + some physical dmg as a support right? But other supports.... Free mmr!

          Shou

            i dont think her ult is why she is strong, i guarantee what they will nerf abt her is damage on her first 2 abilities, mostly cuz she clears waves for free, and is hard to gank. like compare her to treant and it feels so clear, hoodwink can 1 shot a creep wave with 2 abilities but tree needs to sit there and wait with natures grasp

            or they nerf her e somehow so she is easier to gank, im unsure which one theyll do, she doesnt really need both nerfs tho.

            actually she probably doesnt need any nerfs rn, since she isnt really winning. i think it may still take some time for people to optimize her build and playstyle before she needs to get tuned

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            zarse

              no.

              alexuhhh

                idk its easy to dodge if u know what youre doing. also mk is a very strong hero rn too. mischief dodge nerf pls

                ETd

                  @Shoukyaku most heroes don’t really have good winrates on release so that’s kinda normal? The fact that they nerfed her day 1 tells you a lot about how crazy she is.
                  I also play heroes with reliance on passives(Necrophos, Bloodseeker, Huskar) so she annoys me quite a bit with the long break and slow

                  Lex

                    I think it might be good in a combo with Magnus.

                    Shou

                      yeah my point is that once she gets better figured out her winrate will probably increase, so we should wait on nerfs until later i imagine

                      '96 Neve Campbell

                        No its actually pretty useless to be honest. Laguna blade but harder to land. Only really good for catching backrow targets and people running away because of its slow, the break is very situational and the damage is practically useless beyond the early stages of the game. It is also counter intuitive to use as a core hoodwink where you can output similar damage without it.

                        kowareta

                          did they nerfed this hero or what? i cant find the patch notes but suddenly nobody wants to pick him

                          Tatsu たつ

                            yup she's significantly worse - nerfed even before patch.
                            I still like her tho. i think she'll be buffed a bit - i wouldnt mind bushwack radius to come back to as it was day 1.
                            I play her as pos 4 but also stepping up if my team needs other role.

                            Died cause of lag

                              The ulti is shit.
                              Or maybe its just because I cant hit with it...
                              Im getting to old for this shit. gl boys

                              rizzard

                                brah she do not need nerfs, you nuts? 47% win rate, rarely can solo kill someone, only good way to play her is to make space and be annoying and push sidelines, you have 1k hp, so you can't solo carry games with only good role for her is pos 4, yes you can clear waves but you can't rly hit the towers. if she needs something its buff

                                Shou

                                  she is fine, im p sure she is one of the better lane pushers in the game i just think people need to figure out her lane/items/playstyle