General Discussionhow to deal vs tiny + io double mid

Difficult dude, you'll probably just have around half of tiny's amount of cs @10 mins, and at this point you'll have to rely on your other teammates to not lose the other lanes

Dire's draft is so greedy and has a Slark
I'm just wondering if you let an offlane Sky lived through the laning stage

sky actually won that lane, and slark join wk in jungle from min 5-6

Thats why 3k supports suck because they just leech xp from safe lane and dont rotate to other lanes, they were just forced to play supp in the first place

Just stand back, even with Io's tether movement speed boost, Tiny can't do anything to you except run up to you at melee range to do his combo. Let them split exp 2 ways and try to harass Io out of lane. I don't know how Tiny became that farmed that early though, he had a bottle, treads, blink, and aghs by the 18 minute mark while you had nothing but brown boots, a basilius and a midas at the same time.

The tiny io combo involves tiny tossing u back to io, and he can stun first usually

Tiny still has to run up to you up close to do that, Arc Warden has close to the highest attack range in the game. Unless Tiny gets luck with a rune, he won't be able to just casually walk up to you to stun or toss you.

arc loses that matchup, own up to it and move on, unless they mess up and thow the IO into you into the tower, no other way of beating them.

only way you're winning that is if they mess up on lvl 1-2 and you get to lvl 6 without dying, then you could instagib either one of them.

other than that; arc loses because he's slow and easy to kill.

prefered skill build 3-1-1-1

pretty sure you played dumb. 8min RoB and 16min Midas. U have a high attackrange and tiny is terrible at laning, you should be able to zone him somewhat. Other than that u should be careful not to get tossed and farm. Then you go for the good ol splitpush with illusion.

how do u zone a tiny when he has so much io regen?
tiny is way faster than u with io tether

Only gets a proplem later when they got levels. Before that they shouldn't be able to kill arc that easy. The range on arc is huge, it's not like tiny can run up arc diving with level 1.

bad starting item, 2 wraith band better than RoB.
16 min midas is suck.
tiny denied 25 creep, 25*40=1000 gold lost.
after midas -> maelstorm -> get sb asap.
try to kill io first with ur ulti, and start war.

that game wasn't winnable no matter what you did, sadly.

Lose the lane and then go win all the other lanes cus one will be solo and io can't rotate. So if your two supports go gank their safe lane it's a win.

Ideally start with wraith band into wraith band into boots into Aquila or maybe wand and raindrops and then Midas, if ur dying so much.