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General DiscussionIs it normal if you got 30+ LH in 10 mins as a carry?

Is it normal if you got 30+ LH in 10 mins as a carry? in General Discussion
chicken spook,,,,

    Most people are lazy as fuck and want shortcuts
    I do learn from replays

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    Jacked

      laning as a carry is such an atrociously easy job im really not sure how people fuck it up

      easier said than done man. watching pros like no tail is pointless. every1 at that level understands matchups and laning very well. theres no way to replicate whatever you learn from watching him unless its tricks like maybe pulling aggro. or obvious patterns.

      but how do u win a lane from the start when u have no idea who is stronger and when the outcome is so unpredictable because no one knows how to really play in a lane?

      i've been struggling a lot to get 50cs by 10 min, even if i feel like the lane is kinda easy or won, just because tunneling is a real thing and u miss a lot of cs esp when trying to be aggressive to force em out, or cuz im inefficient, get scared for no reason even if they cant kill me, or lose too much hp for no reason, have to miss cs to regen up, etc.

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        Jacked

          if u dont know how to play ur hero in a lane its because ur a fucking idiot

          or you just dont understand the game well enough to understand who has an advantage, and the ppl u play with may not be thinking the same thing as u do even if u do know how to play the lane. but every1 at 7k already kinda knows this so they are able to coordinate as 3 more effectively to win a lane.

          how can u not know this? dunning kruger and autism at the max this guy

          Jacked

            i think u live in a very nice world where everyone is expected to just instantly know things about a game when they ahvent even played 1/10th the ampount of games u have.

            and then suddenly this game is so fucking easy. lol. how fucking crazy do u have to be to say shit like that

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              Jacked

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                      Jacked

                        lol. i understand psychology way more than you ever will my friend. you are too fucking blind too see it. your egocentricity can only be explained by autism, or the inability to incorporate another person's point of view.

                        Jacked

                          back to flaming my shitty peenoise supports and losing safelanes lol

                          rofl

                          m a dumb uneducated retard who doesnt know what that means or how it applies in this context but i sound really cool amongst my other 50 iq uneducated impoverished sea retards

                          rofl.

                          you are such a magnificent little retard.

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                            Jacked

                              lmao. you have redneck level of ignorance, if u think anything you are saying (outside of dota related topics) has any credibility, validity, or intelligence. it's actually so fucking sad to see you are unable to have a proper discussion without showing everyone how fucking autistic and deluded you are. your lack of understanding of human psychology is baffling at the very least.

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                                Jacked

                                  ^first world ignorance. lol

                                  Jacked

                                    stop embarrassing yourself KR. you know nothing about this region. lol. and u know nothing about human psychology, and how fucking deluded you are, spouting fucking crazy shit. you have dunning kruger because u dont fucking understand what you're saying. you are lost in your own psychological experience. lmao

                                    plays dota for his entire childhood. thinks the game is easy. thinks he is smart because he thinks the game is easy. rages that people don't know how to play. flames irrelevantly about how 3rd world sea when he knows nothing about it. lol

                                    Jacked

                                      how can you constantly say shit like "ooohh its so fucking easy, just do this, i dont understand how anyone bla bla bla". thats ranks as the most autistic fucking shit anyone can ever say on this forum.

                                      this isn't even about dota. it could be any fucking topic in the world, and it would be the same autistic-level bull shit that shows how little of an undersatnding u have of anything.

                                      Sia

                                        it's both funny and sad how fast ppl wanna react aggressively to smth. like this whole conversation couldve been a nice and actually valuable talk, like those 3 examples.
                                        @kr the fact that u think everyone SHOULD think about the lanes like that if not theyre retards means u dont see other ppl's perception. srsly it's all perception. cookie sees farming af and networth advantage and predicting enemy's next moves as "the successful pattern", u have a better perception probably since ur mmr is also higher, and see more things, while a 3k like me goes in a lane and doesnt recognize the fact that he could be hitting the lvl1 bristle bc he has more effective hp and gives away his advantage BECAUSE WE DONT SEE THINGS THAT, U DO. WE DONT RECOGNIZE THEM IT'S OUT OF OUR PERCEPTION. and if u think we're retards for that i would give u this example: high schooler tells a elementary school kid u cant even solve this simple differential question. the kid doesnt know what that even is. effective hp? what is that? i got pms he's a bat? so what? looking at my advantages each level? abusing my advantage to create more?? check my regen and enemy's + our levels and dps and armor?????? enemy missing and i automatically check my tower's armor???????! get it?

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                                        cancer

                                          Flame thread LUL popcorns for $3.50

                                          Desolate

                                            u telling 6k 7k are egoistic and dont understand 2k perception ?.
                                            u hink 2k even have perception ??
                                            lol jacked ue cocky as fuck as a 2k mmr shit lets play some 1v1 i prove u wrong
                                            i dont want to see ur replays of games i know i gona cry how .uch 2k autist u are
                                            arguing with kygo is useless jacked ..go start blowing d.icks ij heighbour for money rather than this u gona learn more

                                            Jacked

                                              it's pointless arguong with him. he is so far in his own little head. he thinks it ttook no effort to get 7k probably. most fucking retarded thing i ever heard. he even talks like he is smart by default or that we automatically should all think how great he is. withou ssaying anything intelligent at all. and he just showed how fucking ignorant he is.

                                              my whole point is not that im good at this game. lol. and im not even making excuse. thats not even what im saying. i understand that you can play better, etc etc.

                                              yea call me a retard. katz, or bad. thats not even why im triggered by this KR retard always posting some useless irrelevant shit before making a real point, and then going full retard when someone calls him out. lol

                                              not to take away any of the valuable insight he has provided to this forum, but he is fucking autistic. that's all.

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                                              Sia

                                                can u ppl not talk when u have no idea what u talking about?

                                                u telling 6k 7k are egoistic and dont understand 2k perception? u hink 2k even have perception?

                                                i bet u dont even understand the meaning of perception rofl. it's not a luxury everyone has perception even literally retards and blind people.

                                                higher mmr in dota = master of psychology and socialogy who achieved the level of being able to see world through eyes of the other people, but only the ones who have lower mmr in dota than them. xd

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                                                Desolate

                                                  i actually understand u

                                                  ur comparing urself as a sheep
                                                  whereas 7ks are wolfs here

                                                  obviously u would listen to wolf cause hes smarter and can eat u

                                                  i never see sheep defend herself or attack wolf like u do here

                                                  show respect to higher mmr player

                                                  its not about character of a player herr its about knowledge when u get 7k u can talk shit to 2k like he does to u its legit

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                                                  doc joferlyn simp

                                                    show respect to higher mmr player

                                                    Fucking beta males with their inferiority complexes rofl. Who said MMR was something that commanded respect? Even in that aspect Jacked wasn't trying to argue with kr about the game but his approach in giving advice, which is entirely a different aspect that doesn't connect to MMR whatsoever. If your balls are the size of fleas and you roll over every time someone bares their fangs don't think other people will as well

                                                    Jacked

                                                      Lol. Ill give respect where it's due. If u think being high mmr automatically validates your crazy ass ideas and you post retarded ass shit with no self awareness u don't deserve any respect.

                                                      Like I said the topic here is irrelevant. It's not about Dota. Why the fuck do I have to show respect because he spent more time on this game and is higher mmr than me. Lmao.

                                                      Jacked

                                                        And similarly, the retarded shit you posted just made me lose all my respect for you

                                                        Sia

                                                          how do u represent sheep sound in english btw? maaaaa? baaaaa? rofl

                                                          plaku]

                                                            'RIKI a day ago
                                                            ahh good old normal skill nonsense.
                                                            quick reminder, everyone has different methods to get their mmr
                                                            i can get to 10k by farming'. jessus this kid suffers rly bad from duning kruger sympthome

                                                            LucaManny

                                                              I am always wondering if every 7k actually know everything kitrak said or its an individual theory-craft?
                                                              First, i got the offlane trick (pulling enemy first creep wave)
                                                              Then this

                                                              LucaManny

                                                                Idk, its so detailed i dont get that in game-leap (at least the time when i subscribed)

                                                                Zen

                                                                  30 isn't bad if you are against same skill level dual lane. Don't listen to the haters and all that bullshit saying 50+ lh in a contested lane. It won't work for you, fam. Don't worry about it. You can train, but that's about it.

                                                                  cartel

                                                                    more drama feels good man

                                                                    oof

                                                                      thx mister 7k

                                                                      only problem is telling ur support (if u have one) to follow that tactic

                                                                      Desolate

                                                                        i belive mmr is represetning inteligence, will,desire of a person to learn , therefore jacked i think ur stupid as f.uck or just lazy coc.ksucker :D

                                                                        Chiwa

                                                                          Hye , i liek 2 suk 7k memer playur's cuck

                                                                          Jacked

                                                                            i belive mmr is represetning inteligence, will,desire of a person to learn , therefore jacked i think ur stupid as f.uck or just lazy coc.ksucker :D

                                                                            its true that getting a high mmr may represent some lvl of intelligence, and will, desire to learn. and maybe 20 other qualities as well. so there's probably just a weak correlation. i mean with any skill or sport you pick up, mastery will always require a lot of practice, dedication and some intelligence.

                                                                            but its still a stupid and meaningless comparison, simply because mmr is not important enough in this fucking world that ppl should want to pursue it. hence you cannot make the argument that anyone who is low mmr = dumb. its not like language where if you dont acquire it, its a clear indicator of a developmental disorder. mmr is a choice.

                                                                            i'll give you an example. if i hung out with a bunch of pianist friends, and they were all grandmasters, and i'm maybe in the first grade, does that make me stupid? i hope you attended logic classes in school. the kinds of conclusions people jump to without understanding the premise is just baffling.

                                                                            also, i believe we are around the same mmr. so...

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                                                                            Jacked

                                                                              the amount of ppl on this forum who use MMR to justify their intelligence. i mean. what the actual fuck.

                                                                              Jacked

                                                                                if all chess grand masters are smart, are all non-masters dumb?

                                                                                Chiwa

                                                                                  But .... slug dont have brain

                                                                                  Jacked

                                                                                    slug have muscles

                                                                                    Chiwa

                                                                                      Oh shit im 2k does it mean i failed my life?

                                                                                      Sia

                                                                                        having high mmr is either result of a real tryhard in small time like cookie's 3k+ mmr grind from 2k to 5k or just playing a shit ton of games and not having mental problems like negative beliefs that hold u down at some point. ppl who have both are mostly in the pro scene

                                                                                        Chiwa

                                                                                          But me tim always hol me bak

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                                                                                            Jacked

                                                                                              2ks = you are failure and shame to your family.

                                                                                              Chiwa

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                                                                                                  Desolate

                                                                                                    im not talking about ur being stupid and cant learn piano or anythin in life
                                                                                                    maybe u have brtter predisposition for piano, but obviously not for dota

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                                                                                                    the mmr is very accurate thing and calling autist someone whos 6k solo mmr more than u is stupid

                                                                                                    and ur not on my skill lvl lol ...

                                                                                                    bro idont want to argue with u anymore its pointless and u always have ur right side being as 1k seatard think hes picked up all wisdom in world

                                                                                                    im out

                                                                                                    Jacked

                                                                                                      no one needs to psychoanalyze you to know how retarded you are dude. lol

                                                                                                      please stop over simplifying shit and using your own anecdotal fucking experiences as though it is some sort of proof as if your arguments are valid.