General DiscussionEarly BKB on Phantom Assassin (~18mins). Is that standard build ?

what in the fuck is this post even about ?????

Kristaps Porzingis : edited

When u get bkb that early u end up running out of charges rlly fast when instead u can abuse dagger and buy deso and greed out bkb later on so u actually get more time on bkb when it matters.

I mean building bkb early on PA entirely depends on the enemy team.

i think ur smarter than meta and pros

Pa isnt good enough late game to just buy treads and bkb early and transition late game with bigger items, deso and helm abuse her very early power spike.

Daddy : I know, its depend on playstyle of each person. I think early BKB, with level 2 Coup de Grace, you can do a lot of damage at this stage. BKB-early, and stick push also made a big problem for enemies !

didnt u quit dota this morning

през горите през полята : That is past game, ~2 days ago :). Yeah, I did.

Daddy : Same, my perspective when play PA : End game, as soon as possible.

LANTO 10 hours ago
This topic is done here.
I already leave this game behind my life, uninstalled it. Today is my best day, wake up 6 AM, recycle, doing homework. I clean everything ! Really, this fucking game is made my life so messy. Ok, I'm done with it.
Just simply my life.

i recommend rushing pipe of insight instead of bkb on pa, it's cheaper, gives regen and help your team so you can finish faster!
mekansm is even better for that but u need mana to use it so i recommend arcanes which will also help harrassing enemy with daggers

Lmao if u want to end fast just buy a deso

1-IceTea : Why the fuck I need to install this game ? Dont you see this match is done 2 days ago. If you want scrutiny, please be smarter. I dont like dummy boy like you, at all. Not welcome ! Understood ?

през горите през полята : You do it first. Thank, but not my style

i recommend rushing pipe of insight instead of bkb on pa, it's cheaper, gives regen and help your team so you can finish faster!
mekansm is even better for that but u need mana to use it so i recommend arcanes which will also help harrassing enemy with daggers

In a thread where an 18 minute BKB is considered "standard", I'm not sure if you're shitposting or now. The lack of "kappa" is disturbing.

Phase Boots ? - I tried this item sometimes on PA, it not really fit for her. Really, still need attack speed

She gets attack speed from her Phantom Strike. Phase boots is the only boots you buy on PA.

Explain why Deso is bad.
Explain why you favor 30 minute battlefury over Deso.

I really don't understand why you think this even comes close to the current PA build right now.

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2666871377
As u can see here this pa got a 30 min bf and we won so clearly its a top tier way to play pa.

i think anything can work at low 4k

try that in a 6k average game and you know the answer

in this game buying early bkb is good and must if you do not want to feed but it really depends on the game
phase boots is good for damage and also treads is still good

This topic is done here.
I already leave this game behind my life, uninstalled it. Today is my best day, wake up 6 AM, recycle, doing homework. I clean everything ! Really, this fucking game is made my life so messy. Ok, I'm done with it.
Just simply my life.

and here we are

@LANTO
It's not me but this is a PA who build pipe (albeit it's only high skill match) : https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3022203723
She ended up 4 manning (and killing 3) before going down to Alch.

I can get vlads deso by the time you get that bkb as a 2k player and then I can snowball really hard because unless there are a ton of disables I can just sit there and 3v1 people because I have like 700 damage crits and a ton of lifesteal especially once i hit lvl 15 plus I push buildings fast. Your still building battlefury but I can have bbkb at this point if I really need it and suddenly my pa has twice as much damage and greater survivability.

VO, Deso, Phase boots is good in some situations. I just dont get it, simply I cant play PA with 1000 HP.

Ok, you ask why I make BattleFury late right ? PA has no farming tool, after BKB I still need satanic, and another stuffs. So I made it.

but with vlads deso you can farm heroes and towers. The meta is early fighting which vlads deso pa is one of the strongest early fighting heroes. Going bkb into bf you limit her ability to fight early and are instead relying on farming for thirty minutes. By the time your pa is ready to fight even the enemy antimage is ready to go so now you are fighting an enemy carry that likely has a decent way of dealing with you or you are fighting from behind because it was a 4v5 in one of the most critical periods of the game. Pa just falls too far behind other carries in the late game.

If you farm hero, and got highest streak, once you die. Enemy have huge exp, and gold. Btw, its depends. I still never get phase boots, vla, deso. Perhaps not my style.

In this game, you think I play farming PA ? No way, I fighting early with team, mate. Play PA farming too much is wrong way.

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LANTO 10 hours ago
This topic is done here.
I already leave this game behind my life, uninstalled it. Today is my best day, wake up 6 AM, recycle, doing homework. I clean everything ! Really, this fucking game is made my life so messy. Ok, I'm done with it.
Just simply my life.

Well? Don't you have a place to be, being Dota-sober?

Signor Jose Rapira Rizal : let see from now till future, I dont play this game anymore.

Phase aquila vanguard deso lvl 10 hp talent and run at them, if you need bkb first item PA was a terrible pick.

if you didnt play farming PA why did you even get a BF,and you acn solve the problem by not dying in the first place

Lanto sir please tell me how to quit too .. Shitty game

Battlefury PA is this still a thing ?

Old dogs can't learn new tricks.

^retards gonna tard
Autists gonna aut
Dipshits gonna shit

i think Hotd or echo sabre is better than bf ....
damage item should be manta or deso
you kill the enemy when you crit is lv 2-3
and know how the crit will trigger

No, you'll have no farming speed. You don't want to be teamfighting early as a pa.
A good pa will farm, look for pick offs and split. Unless you have an all push team than it is understandable, but early bkb is almost never an option