u never played with any half good aw players back then cz there werent any in ur bracket
underlord is not even close to what aw used to be
Just information purposes not open to discussion. I dont care about your opinion. I only care about Stats. People lie but statistics are facts
there are no separate statistics for 6.5k+ average games anywhere i know
underlord's not the most contested hero even tho current meta is ideal for him
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Those stats also say that Underlord has a 43% winrate when picked. It doesn't sound like he's particularly imbalanced.
ok i really was not gonna argue with you guys about this "fact" but i dont see so many stupid comments in one post.
@Mekarazium
let's not nerf a hero, who can destroy your base thru backdoor protection without putting himself into any risk,
lol no one is stupid enough to do that. You need rapier for that and this is not 6.86 anymore. Arc warden doesnt have the damage to surpass backdoor protection. Even if he does, your ultimate will expire before you can destroy it and tower will regenerate to its full health. All you are doing is wasting your ultimate and risking to feed 180 gold/xp to enemy. "Underlord is strong for this meta" so you admit it? make up your mind.
@Sam Fuckin' Peckinpah
Enigma is not even good honestly. Only his black hole is somewhat good.
Druid is not even good honestly. Only his bear is somewhat good.
this list will go on forever. The hero you are saying "Not Good" has the second highest winrate and has at least %56 winrate in all bracket and has the highest ban rate in pro scene. Please tell me whats "not good" about this hero
@Lk Zano
Get out.
@HotSalza
Underlord can't single-handedly carry a game on his own. Arc Warden could.
umm. Maybe thats because arc warden is a carry and underlord is not? But still there are more pitlord account boosters then arc warden. Btw, What you are saying is another reason to nerf underlord for cm and leave arc warden as it is. As u said, arc is a solo hero and does not benefit from teamplay as much as underlord does.
Arc warden with silver edge mjollnir pike hex can straight win the game by himself. His clone and himself can go for multiple pick offs at once, and although he cant break backdoor protection, he can and will melt everyone including towers
Underlord has a higher winrate because he is easier to play. A bad arc sux ass, a good arc wins the game by himself.
Sure But Neither mjolnir proc nor hex works on buildings. I still dont know how are you gonna surpass backdoor protection without rapier and old 20 sec ulti duration + cooldown reset for necronomicon/manta.
@Daddy Pitlord requires teamwork. There are easier heroes to play like phantom assasin yet they sit below %50 wr above 5k mmr while underlord is at top with %57 winrate
I never said easier hero means higher winrate. I just said underlord is easier than aw. People fail at aw, but not that many people fail at underlord. Also not trying to say underlord isnt rlly good.
arc nerfs were unnecessary, it was just icefrog saying
"fuck you, use shrines and stop killing so many people"
Wow OP is angry for any opinions that not on his likeing.
Predick why OP recent 2 match was SD
Do people still pick Lycan in your games? Haven't seen a Lycan in ages, although everyone agreed this patch was great for him
Pitlord strength is at his farming speed and aura carrier. Honestly pit of malice is pretty y annoying to deal with
you can wave around with stats all you want but that doesn't make you understand the game anyhow more with your garbage mmr
data are meaningless if you're unable to interpret them in a correct way which requires certain degree of game understanding
@1iceTea
No im ok with them if they make sense like TheMaverick427 also does not agree with me but he put down an actual valid fact instead of hiding behind opinions. So i respect him
@gold experience requiem
data are meaningless? they are the only things that u can trust. It does not matter how high your mmr is even professional players argue about one hero behing trash or op. Those are strong words and has huge gap in between. Why would your opinion matter if even pro players cant come to a conclusion? I did not master arc warden, i dont have enough games to discuss this hero and i dont think im a very good player. I have no right to call him op or trash with my performance. so my opinion also does not matter so i talk with statistics. But i still have decent amount of games with it and i have 11 years of dota experience but you guys are the one that accusing him for being op or trash. This post was only for news about 7.01 pro scene pick ban rate
Melee cores gets destroyed by SK
Stats tell you something but you can't fully base your insights from it, if not, I have 611 avg gpm past 20 games where's my blue star?
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Just to inform u guys
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/hero-stats
tbh, it was really stupid for icefrog to not nerf pitlord before putting it to captains mode. That hero requires a lot of teamwork, yet he had at least %53-54 winrate in any PUB bracket. He has so much potential ruin professional scene. But instead, icefrog dumpstered arc warden who was 10th least picked hero ingame with shit winrate before putting it to cm.
Arc warden: picked 0 times, banned 1 time
Pitlord: picked 44 times, banned 251 times