General DiscussionAm I suck in VHS Bracket?

Yes you are suck, Slacks

What went wrong? I completely zoned their offlaner, control creep equilibrium, stacking then puling large camp and warding best spots. F*ck i thought this is ez game in first 25 mins. Such a drag

dude its just the draft. no way magnus ember pa stand a chance against spectre axe meepo AND mirana in lategme. unless magnus does some 5 man clutch rp into static storm or sth.

Lol if you are spamming omni to vhs you'll be terrible.

@Sielos Vagis We have global GA man. And spec doesnt have diffusal. I dont really know what the fuck happened in this game. The diff in gold and exp just drop really fast after the 25 mins mark.

Aghs? Why didnt you build force and glimmer cape? Cheaper, and it saves your allies. How did you get to VHS? I'm a noob and I know better than to build omni aghs.

@Analytical Analyzer Almost 60% winrate in all brackets. 2k 3k 4k 5k+ Hahahaha ;)

The point Analytical is making is, that almost anyone who plays omni has an inherently better winrate, therefore, playing other heroes will decrease your effective mmr dramatically. A 5k omni spammer is not as good at dota, as say 5k... almost any other hero spammer.

@Are you my mom? its a raindrop and warding-war in the mid game. Forcestaff is useless, glimmer is worst. You only know to build but not the situational. Didnt see that WW and Blink haunt leap?

@Are you my mom? I have support hero pool with decent win rate. And if I play party, I dont pick omni. I rather choose oracle, Dazzle.

yeah but a global ga for 10 seconds doesn't stop meepo mirana axe and spectre from fighting back using their magical and pure damage spells. and when GA ends, your team has got nothing and you lose 100% unless as i said magnus does a big RP followed up by a static storm. which is ridiculous since there is almost no way that dist survives 2 seconds of spectre.

ember battle fury travels daedalusx2 and rapier

vs skadi abyssal manta spectre

no joke you lost with all cores building glass cannon items, agaisnt evasion no mkbs.

Spec is not a prob in this game. Its WW and potm. We can kill spec less than 5 secs but we cant kill this two hero without any of us dying. Take at look at the final score, its 53-56.

eh diffuse spectre or stun her = easy win.

wait......45% magic damage resistance and a repositioning tool is less effective than 2 extra seconds of ult? Forcestaff lets you 100% get GA off on whole team in fight, it can push the mirana into you and bait leap. There's 2 uses right there. Glimmer can, oh I dunno, reduce half the income damage. You say I dont know situational, but you build it in over half your games as your first item after arcanes.....

well, these are slippery heroes, its naturally hard to kill them for your team if you don't get the jump first using rp or at least a glimpse. very low lockdown on your team in general. and low on nukes too so potm could just freely eblade whoever you focus.

It's cool, I looked though the last 20 or so pro players games to play, none of them rush aghs. Saw a lot of glimmer caps and force staffs against similar lineups you faced. Guess I'm just an idiot though. Aghs in in like 60-70% of your omni games. when it is the MOST situational/luxury item on him period. Blah, youre just trolling to get attention, not advice.

dont listen to anyone just play dota
mmr wont mean nothing and uwont get money for it
in the end u wil regret for listening some trash posting here instead just play dota and enjoy and be happy and wih that u will improve when i was 2k i was just enjoying and figure out how to improve

@Are you my mom? You'll understand if you reach this peak. We can never stick to each other. WW + Mirana will rape us plus if I dont buy ahgs, Spec will rape us. NS - Max degen sny. HS - Ahgs. VHS - Meks. So, ahgs is my situational in VHS bracket.

@Sielos Vagis Hmmm. I remember that 5 man RP (Creep)

Smh @ Juliet Simms. I'm not here to argue with whatever you think is right. I'm telling you that spamming omni to get to higher brackets will end up messing you up. You will not have the skills or knowledge to play against higher skill players if omni gets banned which he will as soon as players check your profile. Learn to be a good player not an omni spammer

@Analytical Analyze Zone, wards, heal, stack, gank - repeat. oracle, dazzle, omni. I'm spamming to get ez mmr coz i know I wont belong to this bracket, I calibrated at 2k because I only play support and give me less MMR. SAS is at 5k now spamming omni. Any problem with spamming? Hahahahahahahaahahahahhahaahhaaha

"spamming omni to get to higher brackets will end up messing you up."
I lol'ed. A lot. TBH.

Okay

Git gud

tbh spamming omniknight might not be the best move. i know a guy who spammed omni to 4k and he still feeds in 2k games.

U might be a noob

Maybe I should start playing Omniknight too, even Slacks got 5k by spamming Omniknight and he barely understands basics like zoning or even getting regen for lane.

But, yeah, Aghs really sucks. Why spend the first 30-40 minutes in your games rushing an item that just gives 2 seconds of physical immunity every 2 and a half minutes? Against a team with barely any physical damage at all?

@Potato Marshal spec x ww ulti

Wyvern ulti already has a shorter duration than your ult, and spec already had radiance 15 minutes before you got your aghs while you were running around with nothing but arcanes and a wand for most of the match.

@potato marshal
That's why I've said he should not be spamming omni, he does not understand that.

boohoo boohoo

Gonna spam techies instead. :D

Spam your best hero - high mmr advice
You should not be spamming omni - said low 4k mmr
Hmmm. Who should I trust?

Nobody is saying don't play Omni, they're just saying you're awful at it.

Do I need to screen Cap? Playing and spamming has a huge difference.

Spam any hero except omni. Omni makes u a worse player while giving u mmr. That's what it means I think. Imagine u spammed a hard hero like io with a low winrate. But u are able to win a lot with it. I'm confident u would become a better player overall as a result.

1 support is better than 2 supports in the late game
facepalm

If its awful, why its working? I just lost my last match because we have 2k in our team. No one notice that.

Or maybe it's the fact that a 40 minute aghs was your only real item in the whole match?

@Jacked Im not that dumb to use omni in my entire life. I played around 10 times omni then switch to oracle then switch to dazzle and so on.

I just don't believe you're a good player. Eventually you'll fall back
Down and begin to rage. Then create a new smurf.

The life of a defensive support is that u rely on others to make aggressive game winning plays.

If u don't like it try more play making supports like bane lion ogre disruptor or supports that can do a bit of both like ww and wd

Who said I'm good? No one said ;) even a low 5k player have a doubt to selfproclaimed he's good.

@Jacked I already try when I was in 2k and mid 3k. Its hard. They will not cooperate, so I decide to play defensive heroes to save the braindead teammate from dying. Maybe when I reach 4k ill try it again. There are less cancer carry in 4k I guess?

Smh trash

You must be so good. Y so mad? Hahahahaha

I have something that might help. If ur thinking ur spells are to save ur retard teammates then maybe u r not maximizing ur spell usage. U should not only save them from dying ( which in this case doesn't accomplish much) but also maximize their potential in fights (with ga and repel for example)