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offlane alchemist = food for everyone
he has no innate escape, putting him at offlane and at worse in a solo hardlane would mean endless feed
if you put that hero there for the exp advantage, there are tons of popular offlaners that can do so and offer so much more than an alchemist who has no damage output because he invested in utility items
basically you just walk fast
How about you stick him at solo offlane for 4 min and retreat to jungle to get lv6 and farm. He wont die like 8 time in solo hardlane. And he is quite a good ganker if you got unstable on someone with other support. Honestly i put alch offlane for just the utility. I want to make him as a agh giver and early pipe/mek
No, you cant, because you will only be able to sap xp on lane, alch is pretty weak on lane, even if you use the acid and the creeps, people can pull the wave or even push since the alch cant contest pre lvl 6, them you buy a soul ring and spam that thing, it makes easier for people to gank pre lvl6, you wont have a bottle, you wont have any good item other than the soulring, you will be sitting with -40%HP, you end up with a alch 6 minutes late on farm, and even after his lvl6 he wont do shit on the lane, them he will need to alternate jungle, but there he can be easily ganked as well, and them he will take the farm of teh carry and the mid, that go jungle to clear a creep camp.
The biggest strengh of alch, is to farm faster, split push and farm multiple places, just like a naga, he needs to do goodish on the early game, suport alch isnt good, he will be 6 sloted to early and them he can only farm aghs for his team, and you cant transition into a carry because you will be wasting the first 30 minutes of the game.
No way dude. Midas->radiance way better
U got it in 15' and at 20 u already have bot and manta
Actually you only need rad and manta for agh thats why he is so good. He can rush agh as a first item. He can get it at 15 min and give it to hero like WR which is not possible because both are the mid hero. And wr can buy other item like daedalus and maelstorm
YOU NEVER BUY MIDAS ON ALCH NEVER, NORMALLY MIDAS PAY ITSELF IN 20 MINUTES ALCH CAN FARM OTHER ITEMS ON THAT TIME, ALCH CAN FARM 20K GOLD IN 20 MINUTES
I remember 1 game where in the tournament alch vs timber mid. The alch cant even have a last hit so he farm ancient and got really big by 15 min rad so its almost guarantee that you can get 15 min agh or 12 min agh
Well i like midas alch
My gpm always 1k+ with midas 8slotted @35~40 :p
If u rush rad:way too risky since alch dont have escape
U buy midas u will hav lv2 ulti @11 or less idk for better survivability
Im not the type who like stacking jungle duh xd
lets clear shit up. first midas isnt bought for the gold, its bought for the xp it gives everytime you use it. it multiplies the xp that creep gives by 4, which is why you use it for big creeps/ranged creeps/siege creeps. there may come a time when using it on a small creep is more economical but im getting off track. the point is midas is for xp, not for gold adv
second you know why alch isnt considered op, despite having the ability to make two dr's 12 mins into the game? its because of his shitty stat gain. he can and will transition into a monster once he has items, but if he is denied that in the early game your use is that of visage's familiars. that is, considered as bait bcs you give a lot of gold when killed and hard to capture since runs fast and has stun. for alch, xp doesnt win you the game. gold does
so midas = exp. alch doesnt need exp. alch needs gold. gold which he will use to farm even more gold. and in the process, gain exp. as a side effect, win the fucking game
sorry op, i lost you on the first sentence.
guys i need a TLDR so i don't lose the rest of my brain cells by reading the full thread
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Play alche like a dark seer spamming skills for harassing and shit
Don't think it's viable at all
Alchemist is one of the easiest level 1 heros to gank and he needs solo xp, this is an awful idea and would only be done by people who don't understand how to offlane or play alc.
yeah darkseer starts with 999 armor and has free haste, ion shell stacks and does a million times more damage
without the ability to abuse greed alch is useless. ty valvefrog for nerfing support alch into the grave
Support alch has no place in the game anyway lmao
One of the best space abuser hero as a support just doesn't make sense
Why would u stack jungle for 1k gpm when u can have midas for 1k gpm and faster exp
U got high regen at lv 16 when enemy still lv 9-11, ofc exp is important :/
I just too lazy to stacking 😀
If you ever ganked alchemist you know he's not good at trading hits. Why do you think he has q in the first place.
Support alch is only legit when u random it at first pick, so enemies build around to counter u. U can off with it, but not solo.
U go Phase + blink + medalion of courage if u want the game to end in the mid game. U take only 1 point in greed and max stun + cloud.
If u aim for late game and enemy doesnt have line up for fast push (eg medusa), u go brown boots + mealstorm and afk farm scepters.
pre level 6 ofc
or maybe even if he has depending on the amount of burst you guys brought
if he has ulti in i think only an ursa can take him in early game
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Lately, i have been thinking about offlane alchemist. Honestly i dont think this will be legit but fuck it. So the skill build is pretty much the same but you put 1 skill for unstable concoction in lv 3 or 4. In term of playstyle you play him like dark seer but be more careful because you dont have any escape. You build his item like dark seer too. The good thing about him is he can retreat back to jungle and come out with guardian greaves, crimson guard etc. and i hear that early mek is legit so alch can do that by going to jungle and farm. And yeah agha is good for he can give that to other people.
Ps. I cant try this because ns and you cant got solo off vs trilane properly and i cant play due to high ping as well.i hope some vhs player can try this :)