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General DiscussionHow about 2 bf's on ember? (w/o meepo/pl/etc)

How about 2 bf's on ember? (w/o meepo/pl/etc) in General Discussion
kunst 2

    Seems good for me if you looking for damage (instead of second crits/deso/mkb). I check some pro players - sometimes they use this build
    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1686838227 - TI game, even sumail few times going for three :D

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    Last games I played with noobs, I know it does'n count) Still never try this build in normal matches, so I could be wrong.

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    fabi

      Shure thats strong and even ember farms insane with 2 bf^^

      Gazz   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        Fury dont do well in late game. One is enough. A maelstorm would be more useful since it can be upgraded to Mjolnir for more lightnings

        Metallicize

          more liek a rapira would be more useful

          MangoMarkus

            A mkb gives you the ability to stop channelling(e.g. tp) also truestrike+damage always useful, and extra cleave is more useful if you got mag, enigma or warlock for hard AoE lockdown

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            dunce

              Only vs meepo

              TripleSteal-

                an addiional daedlus gives you a greater damage output on average, unless ther are tb/meepo/pl, but in any case ud better go for other items (blink, linkens, manta, etc.)

                SOSLICK

                  The reason sumail got double battlefury in that game was because of the massive amount of armor on the other team, so it would be a better damage item that game.

                  More than 1 BF is very situational. You have to understand what a second battlefury does for you if you are going to decide to get it over a crit or whatever. If you will do more damage with an extra 35% cleave than with an extra 25% damage, then go for it. Just keep in mind, optimal cleaving is rare, and only gets rarer as you increase in MMR.

                  NVM, sumail got his 2nd battlefury while attacking the throne. It was irrelevant that game, so dont even use it as justification.

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                  Murranji

                    I remember ons tream (think it was from maybe a Barnyyy game or maybe Moonmeander or someone...), they said that your choice between going for a second battlefury or a daedalus depends on how far ahead or behind you are. Two battlefuries will fully cleave down a creep wave so if you are behind and are just stuck trying to defend your base getting a second battlefury so you can completely clear out the creepwave is better than getting the possible crit from daedalus. Conversely if you are ahead then getting the daedalus is better since the potential for higher crit damage is better when you are trying to pressure or kill someone.

                    SPACEMAN

                      Fury. Daedalus. Bkb. Rapier. Moonshard. Boots of Travel. Good to go.

                      psy·che·del·ic

                        Not Very Good.

                        Once Ember has battle fury and daedelus, he benefits much more from other items like bkb / eye of skadi / desolator / linkens / divine rapier etc