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Healing based strats in General Discussion
Roger

    I need ideas for teams designed for early team fighting and a lot of healing to sustain and continue fighting/pushing/ doing roshan. An example could include :

    Chen(mek holder/ult/pushing power)
    Juggernaut(great carry that can fight early and has an amazing scaling heal that enables early roshan)
    Faceless Void(seen him frequently make vlads/is self sustaining/ great initiator)
    Witch Doctor(Heal/Ult synchronises well with chrono)
    Death Prophet(cause she is so balanced right now)

    The faceless void can also be replaced by an enchantress for an even faster push and sustain in which case I would like to replace the wd with a treant protector for initiation.

    Metallicize

      just pick dazzle

      dunce

        medusa with bloodstone rush, some od or something with an early mek, omni or dazzle, and something... maybe furion and some good counterinitiator
        = endless siege
        http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2165704368
        no mek, but still endless push

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        MILNOR

          I played an undying off, Daz+ necro safe, Chen woods, and DP mid gimmick lineup once.

          Riguma Borusu

            Chen is good
            Jugg is good
            Faceless void is trash
            Witch Doctor is good
            Death Prophet is good

            You put those heroes in lanes until they get some levels, then you just tear towers 1 by 1 and if you didn't get completely rekt in your lanes you'll get tons of tower gold and just win at 15 minutes gg ez +25

            Also don't forget dazzle, necro and abaddon.

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            sayaka

              core pugna oracle dazzle
              mid od
              offlane omni

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              Immaterial

                You don't necessarily need like 3-4 heroes who heal.. You can have 2 heroes who heal.. This is cause if you have 3-4 heroes who heal then you will be lacking in another aspect, which is usually hero damage,

                Omni / Abbadon both amazing for early pushing / fights with their heal and protection spells.

                WD is not the best healer cause the heal is over time not instant like omni/abadon so it doesn't help much in middle of a fight. Esp when u need to channel ult.

                Jug is great for that strat.

                Ur saying get vlads on void but itonly helps right clickers. So just remember that.

                If u want to push early with void just remember he needs a few items to be useful in fights otherwise he hits like a support and u need a follow up to his ult.

                Can't forget wraith king, he has a massive life steal skill for his team and he can jungle.

                Phenoix can heal pretty well and he has a lot of utility in team fights.

                Chen is good but get him to push early not cuz of his heals cuz they don't scale well into late unless he gets fast GG boots I guess.

                Dark seer is good to win ur offlane and farm fast GG boots.

                Winter wyvern is good esp if enemy has strong right clicker so u can protect ur carries against him and make that carry kill his teammate with WW'S ULT. And WW is very strong in laning phase.

                Ursa is pretty good at regening life in fights . He can be super deadly if paired with and omni or abadon.

                OD can fit well into like any line up.

                Weaver is good cuz he can regen instantly with his ult.

                FV good at absorbing damage then negating it. Just don't forget he's still a good core hero, u don't have to play him in offlane necessarily . Waga plays him in safe carry role and it works for him alot.

                TA is good cuz refraction keeps her alive and if u have omni or abadon to keep her alive you can def win fast.

                Don't forget Undying. Amazing heal, tombstone ,and ult. Also he's one of the only heroes in dota with a 50% win rate vs spectre. When spec ult is up ur heal heals TONSSSSSSS of HP . And undyings ult counters specs dispersion cuz it makes her take like 30-40% more damage which kind of destroys what makes her so tanky.

                Idk man.

                I would say don't try to get 4 heroes who can heal cuz then u don't have enough hero damage in fights. Don't underestimate power of hero damage.

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                UserName

                  duzzel, anchintrass, dick praphet, jagurneut, anduying

                  Metallicize

                    i once had dazzle + doctor with me on lane, game was pretty ez

                    erk

                      "Ur saying get vlads on void but itonly helps right clickers. So just remember that. "
                      How it helps only right clickers? It's aura has everything you need to 5 man push and helps every single hero in your team: armor , mana (not much, but still) , hp regen (same with mana) , damage and lifesteal .

                      Immaterial

                        @erk true, forgot about the headress aura that comes w. Vlads. Ya I was talking in terms of hp regen

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