General DiscussionThe Rise of Blood Seeker

who cares?

hes a strong pubstomper, nothing you cant deal with tho, lesh recks him, lina too, storm too. and this is just heroes counters. 5 man and he cant do shit. I didnt lost to a bloodseeker in a looong time

And its great, because not everyone can perform with him.

Damn almost as good a pudge........

Very impressive hero

Allu so good at dealing with bs but yet not in very high skill games?

;)

The arise in storm popularity is more impressive though

Storm's pickrate is trending the same direction as Bloodseeker but not as dramatically.

Storm went from 16.84% in 6.84 to 25.42% this week.

16.84% 6.84
15.39% 6.84b
19.46% 6.84c
24.68% This Month
25.42% This Week

I just decided to check on this because my last 5 games in a row had a bloodseeker picked.

does skill matters? ya, bloodseekers here are not eve 10% of what is in 5k+, thats why i said, I didnt lost to him in a long time, never talked about anybody else. What i cant state my opinion cuz i am 3k?

It was a slight joke bro not putting you on blast.

Also out of heroes you have played this patch the three heroes you do the worst against that you have 25+ games agaiant is:

1. Necro
2. Sf
3. Bloodseeker

Tbh though I'm playing ability draft until the patch cause as an offlaner I hate bs pickers more than anything in this life.

I am interested to see if there is a significantly differnt pick rate of heroes at differnt MMR levels, as I would expect there to be. It would be great if DOTABUFF PLUS could allow us to divide the data for Heroes and Items according to the MMR level of the games. It should be possible if they have enough rating buddies now.

Considering my last 50 games which were played in the past two weeks ranging from 3.1k to 3.9k MMR... 8 games in Very High, 10 games in High, 32 games Normal. I find Bloodseeker was picked 19 times a 38% pick rate --- far above the global average. Bloodseeker won 10 and lost 9 - 52.6% winrate, pretty close to the global average of 54%.

Dotamax shows you the difference between normal, high and very high skill amongst some other options.

There's definitely a pick difference cus sniper is still 18% and he does not show up in 1 out of 5 games not even close. It's like 1 out of 15 unless I pick him so he must be getting picked a ton in 2k or something

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I lose more to Phantom Assasins than Bloodseekers BTW. Most bloodseekers in Normal Skill are as tarded as shit, 2EZ2Kill

I can't tell if I fucking suck with blood or if I have the worst luck. I'm 3-6, get retards in all those losses. One was definitely on me, I lost a solo offlane to a storm, cus I was way to aggressive, not really played bs in a mid role or solo lane like that yet. But holy shit this luck:

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1755808376

This one was by far the worst, just look at skill choices and items. On top of that gyro had no fucking clue, he had a fb in the bag on spirit breaker at rune but chased him with rockets, failing to use normal right click auto attack. I mean he never even clicked the guy, chased him all the way under tower and gave up fb himself. He maxed missile. Then qop doesn't spec blink til 4 and dies a couple times offlane before that, then builds maelstrom.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1763234328

This one I shadow safe lane but guy picks AM second, doesn't say anything or shadow his lane, so I say ok I'll go jungle. Well AM decides to go offlane, I have no idea why, and he's solo vs slark who kills him twice. AM rushes midas and by rush I mean like a 12 min midas, then goes vlads, then battlefury. He doesn't talk the entire game until we start giving him so much shit, he finally says how can you blame me for a 2-9 mid? Not understanding that he fed slark, slark killed mid repeatedly. And his choices were just total shit. And I honestly thought this was a win, I ganked the crap out of bottom, was like 3-1-1, maelstrom, pms, treads at 11 mins but NOPE.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1760899900

This is the one I lost top lane vs solo storm. I killed him once and died twice I think, but had relative free farm so if other lanes just held on it wouldn't be that bad. But WR loses to a ALCHEMIST MID. WHAT THE FUCK?! She claims she "won" mid cus she killed him one time by he had like a 17 min radiance, she didn't secure runes, and she lost tower and she didn't take ult til level 10. Meanwhile, nice items slark, and they lose lane to omni + PA, which I guess is kind of hard. Played badly but can't catch any breaks. How many games do you play a carry, give up fb but your offlane does good so it's still winnable? Zero on the cyka, zero room for error with these morons.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1760850660

Mid feed, can't say much more than that, he lost to a fucking slardar on storm, I think he was 0-8-0 at one point. And the necro here was the slark in the above game, really just a shit player, decides to ANCIENT against a RIKI. Meanwhile my safe lane is me and disruptor vs fucking BB + ogre. That's a really hard lane, both super tanky and blow you up fast. I did what I could but nope, not enough to overcome the feeders.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1758388560

Another gem of a game, TB is afk during picks and gets TB randomed for him. AWESOME. Then he goes afk half the match. Then he builds treads and sells them for travels with just a yasha. Thumbs up TB Well Played! And check out that offlane feed (he also randomed super late), amazing!

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1757981428

This one the team just a bunch of dumb shits, keep trying to team fight vs three str heroes with a shitton of disables and dazzle. They bitched me out majorlly for not joining the clusterfuck. I had to mentally put lina on my dodge list he was so toxic.

In reality blood is good but he has a shit ton of counters. If you pick a ton of tanky heroes or hard disablers he is screwed. If your team loses all the lanes you are screwed cus he's not good playing from behind, I mean he farms very well but late game he loses to most other carries. Dunno if I will keep trying to spam him or not, I can definitely get better and it won't even matter with teammates like these.

Three choices to win is end early , get wayyy more farmed than enemy or own early making space for other carry on ur team , equal farm on blood vs carry late game you will lose .

Tuff for me to win games these days with my shitty lag but won a bs game earlier , had something pretty lucky happen tho , three times in a row am did the blink animation and my mkb canceled it , was pretty sweet. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1764419120

Well I'm trying to win early but if I first or second pick blood the enemy team picks all bullshit like lina, sprit breaker, slardar, all shit that fuck bs up. You say well lina should be easy, but she will roll our mid and have brown boots and euls at 12 mins and then she rapes you with her ult even with blade mail cus she can just wait it out then.

If you wait to pick bs he gets picked by other side lol. It's so stupid.

Like the game you linked, can't tell for certain but looks like viper crushed that sf mid. That never happens for me, team always gets crushed every lane I'm not in.

I might just go back to spamming wraith king, get bkb you can be a legit carry vs most of that shit.

if u tired of losing, here is real advice, works every time:

pick OSfrog le balanced blue pony man OSfrog

this just isn't my meta, my best carries have always been farmers or obsolete man fighters like wk and naix.

maybe you are just ugly

O actaully the game I linked my viper got semi stomped by shadow fiend mid but I created so much space early mid game viper rebounded from bad start . I wasn't posting that game to show anything I was just stoked that I canceled a blink animation three times in a row lol.

I actaully should have farmed more prioritized myself more that game , since I have dropped mmr the carries on my team are shittier they almost didn't take enough advantage of the space I created especially felt like I was dragging along lc all game

right, that's what seems to happen, I'll gank their lane 2 or 3 times adn they still end up behind. I had a decent game on lycan though, people do not see him much in 3k or know how to counter. Maybe I'll try him some.

dude blood cyka rapes lina http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1763564530 I was solo vs a fucking tusk lina combo as bs guys..... trick is don't always blood rage yourself somtimes you need to just blood rage the creep your about to kill. Anyone smart will try to kill you if you run up to creep wave with blood rage on yourself especially lina and tuskar.. My advice too is take advantage of your thirst speed run circles around lina before you try to attack chances are she will miss her stun same goes anyone who has to aim a spell at you bloodcyka can run very fast lol.

Also can you people please stop building BM on bloodcyka? like that exploit with the blood rage dosnt work anymore... its honestly a garbage item... hes fucking squishy how much dmg will you really reflect before you die.. its basically only good for solo targets that your about to kill anyways because they cant attack you back. In reality a basher will do this better and stop tps. Edit: I suppose it could be good later on once you have alot more hp but first item BM just seems like trash

Yeah he crushes her in lane, problem is when she is in a different lane and wins it and has a 10 min euls. Euls range is so far and she will blow you up with her euls, light array, ult combo, it's too much dmg. It's same with those shitty exort invokers and stupid euls, meteor, deafening roar thing. 2 shots people and they have no chance of doing anything.

bm is good in quite a few situations and the "exploit" works if you rage the enemy instead of yourself

Still tho I don't think that making BM first item on bs is good, bloodraging an enemy and using bm is kinda good but what's stopping them from tping out?

Also if your struggling with aoe spells get bkb if its single target I get linkens.. I played a game last night where the enemy beast master kept killing my bs with roar.
Once I got Linkens I was no longer being focused down in fights. Same can be said about bkb...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFGv6TIGL-o

As a Bloodcyka player I feel like this is my kinda thread.

Honestly if you wanna deal with the hero just carry TP... Or at the very least be good at pressing the "H" (Hold Position) hotkey on your keyboard!

Hopefully he doesn't get too many nerfs in the next patch, my boy Bloodcyka hopefully gonna get me to 5k!

Guys bLoodseeker is a op hero but there are ways to counter him. Either you shut him down early or you drag the game out. Bloodseeker get rekt late game by basically any hard carry.He is a versatile hero and you just have to build items relative to the game.

The worst thing you can do as a bs is throw away your streak to a hard carry or an alch or somthing

hello this is my trolling id
bloodcyka is 82%++ winrate against Normall Skill n High Skill opponent

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/204417053/matches?date=&hero=bloodseeker&skill_bracket=&lobby_type=&game_mode=&region=&faction=&duration=&enjoyment=any&timezone=Asia%2FJakarta

if u play at very high skill with bloodcyka , use his skill 1 on allied carry with BKB or on Lina
his ulti with agh is around 1400++ pure damage

this topic almost useless for me , almost no one share about how bs to be played , what item good on him , etc
only 3k talking without even tell reason where the hell his statement come from

regards for bloodcyka fans around the world

btw thx for Ath[e]isT, he tell us the trick "use skill 1 on dying creep" , if we vs enemy burst damage at lane
thats a good trick for bloodcyka user

btw bloocyka can effective late game , it depens on how u use his skill 1 properly
even with the right timing i can amplify damage around +96% on enemy with bloodcyka , ya amplify pysic , magical , and pure
in other word , if u have dagon 5 , u can deal almost 1600 magical damage (before reduction) on enemy

dagon 5 is kinda almost idiot item , u pay 1250 gold for extra 100 magical damage (before reduction)
dagon 1 is good if u want to trolling around like me
(tbh dagon 1 is almost idiot item for bs too if u dont know how to do 800 magical damage with dagon 1 only)

My boy seekerino got me from 2k to 3k in about one month actually went on a 22 game winning streak with that hero. Hopefully my boy gonna get me to 4k in the next one :D

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/200378169/matches?date=&hero=bloodseeker&skill_bracket=&lobby_type=&game_mode=&region=&faction=&duration=&timezone=Etc%2FUTC

I first pick him always aswell, sometimes u get counterpicked but the players are trash anyways so it doesnt really matter..

@Smokey it will be so horrible for other teamates to play with you when bs gets nerf

@dad touched my banana It's all good hes my main hero but not my only hero.