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ywn

    well only one i cant do is e cause i dunno hwo to derive that shit

    Mekarazium

      maths are hard and i've no clue how they are useful in life
      basic skills is the other story, still can't figure our why limits and integral garbage are so important
      im not going through that ever again

      ywn

        alenari men i thought u were gud

        faw

          chain and product rule probably is very important for u to learn,

          integral(e^-x) is -e^-x

          only way to solve this is by what triple said, F(b) - F(a) + for infinite bounds u can just look at the function and take a good guess (x^5 -> inf will be divergent) e^-x from 0 to inf will go to 1 because

          -e^0 = -1 (integral(e^-x) = -e^-x)

          if u look at how e function goes u cna mirror it on y-axis and u see it goes to 0 for infinite, so F(inf) - F(0) = 0 - (-1) = 1

          its what i know from high school tho maybe im dog now

          faw

            integral(f(x)) is probably false wording, i mean the main function (idk how its called in english), the F(x) for f(x)

            faw

              btw question for smarties, if lim f(x) x -> inf is inf, does it mean that the function is always divergent, or is there an exception to this

              <darth>

                Yes, if it is an inderterminant form for this case one. No exception if the value of limit tends to inf.

                ywn

                  But how do I derive (cos(x))/sin^2(x)

                  <darth>

                    It is U/V form it's derivation is [(dU/dx)V - (dV/dx)U]/V^2

                    Other method is u convert it into cot(x).cosec(x)
                    Apply U.V form [(dU/dx).V+(dV/dx)U]

                    Your welcome.

                    ywn

                      Ye but I never learned about cot and cosec

                      ywn

                        And i tried the first one but I couldn't get it right gg

                        faw

                          probably some gay ass trigonometry (idk how, maybe turn cos/sin into tan), alternatively (what i would do, but probably wait for ALENOORI or someone else to answer) substitution

                          faw

                            oh nvm mister darth already got it :) seems overkill tho

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                            ywn

                              But I can't do it cuz I'm bad

                              faw

                                just learn it lol 4head dont u have places where u practice this in class

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                                  faw

                                    sym why u leave discord n delete me)

                                    lone dog

                                      btw question for smarties, if lim f(x)_{x -> inf} = inf, does it mean that the function is always divergent, or is there an exception to this

                                      The function is divergent if it does not converge to a real number. Infinity is not a real number, so f(x) does not converge in that case. There is no exception, at least for real valued functions.

                                      But how do I derive (cos(x))/sin^2(x)

                                      cosx/sin^2x = cotx*cscx
                                      so for f(x) = cosx/sin^2x =cotx*cscx, f'(x) = cotx*(-cscxcotx) + cscx(-csc^2x) = -cscx(cot^2x+csc^2x)
                                      it would suffice to leave it like that, thus the derivative of (cos(x))/sin^2(x) is -cscx(cot^2x+csc^2x).

                                      Please try to avoid the quotient rule if possible. It just makes it messy and an unnecessary effort when you can utilize the trig identities to make your work easier.

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                                      faw

                                        are there exceptions with non real valued functions

                                        lone dog

                                          Well for all intents and purposes, particularly in your case, there is no exception.
                                          But if you ever take an analysis course, specifically complex analysis you will find that the complex plane and be extended so that it can be topologically equivalent, or homeomorphic to the riemann sphere. This is done by defining the notion of the complex infinity which allows us to have a different interpretation from the metaphorical infinity you will be working with in calculus.
                                          In other words, infinity becomes a point in the set . It is important to note that this element is NOT a number is used to discuss limiting behavior of complex functions (for example those holomorphic at infinity).

                                          But in the context of your calc class, the important part to understand is infinity is NOT a number but rather a metaphor used to distinguish between situations where points on a line become unbounded by getting large positively and negatively very fast.

                                          If you choose to further pursue courses in analysis or maybe take the advanced calc sequence it would still be favorable to understand how this notion of infinity can have different interpretations depending on the structure you are studying.

                                          faw

                                            now thats some pogchamp stuff

                                            arin

                                              i am fairly sure that you don't need some cosmic shit like csc to solve that
                                              too bad that i forgot how to do calculus so i can't back up my statement by solving it normally

                                              lone dog

                                                If you do not have a solid grasp of being able to use identities to manipulate trig functions to compute derivates, let alone not even know what csc and cot are, you are going to struggle horribly in calc 1, and you will fail calc 2, and be just like all of those other people I see complaining about it being too difficult without actually taking the time to do the problems or read the text and proceeding to drop every class they get a C in on the first exam.

                                                So for his sake he better hope he does not consider the equality cosx/sin^2x = cotxcscx as "cosmic shit" because that is the easiest braindead solution to a simple trig derivative like that. Any other solution (ie the suggestion to use the quotient rule) is just more work than is needed and shows that the person making the suggestion lacks profeciency with the tools he should be familiar with at this point in the course.

                                                Edit: I know it sounds harsh but if I am correct in assuming you (ywn) are in calc 1 then you really should have a good grasp on the foundations of trig functions and their associated identities. Especially when you get to calc 2 you will be required to know almost all of the important ones like the back of your hand as it will benefit you greatly when you start doing more complicated trig integrals. If I was teaching your calc 1 class and you told me you never learned about cot and csc I would be very worried about what else you might have never learned and how this could impact your performance in this course.

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                                                Väinämöinen

                                                  studying LUL just go to work

                                                  ywn

                                                    Well I just started and didn't learn that cot/csc stuff in hs so. Also this is not NA

                                                    Feachairu

                                                      wat is this math cancer that i will not understand unless i put effort

                                                      ywn

                                                        Anyway thanks for help I can prob do it now

                                                        Jay the Bird

                                                          ywn 9k at dota 1k at math

                                                          ywn

                                                            i actually got the right stuff using the quotient rule it seems, i just had problems simplyfying it

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