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[DFG] Whale King

    Hey guys, I'm trying to pick up ember spirit, playing him mostly mid lane

    Can I get any advice on how I should be playing in lane?

    Mekarazium
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      SalmonmanAK

        Very aggressive is how I like to play him. Max chains first and then flame guard, maybe one point into SOL early for the chain combo. Keep ganking once you hit lvl 7, get that BF at like 12 mins and you're set. if you want to take it to the late game, I like 2 BFs but that's just me.

        edictzero

          I am assuming that is a smurf account, I am not calling you out or anything, but I am curious how that build does currently in VHS

          braindead
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            N4

              Generally 2 points in chains, 1 point in fist and maxed flameguard.

              He currently sucks and I don't recommend picking him.

              You can try Maelstrom + Arcane boots for fun, it works for midgame.

              MOA KIKUCHI ASTRALIS

                kitrak 343 is also pretty strong if the matchup allows you to do so

                braindead
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                  MOA KIKUCHI ASTRALIS

                    its double damage how isit usless?!?!?

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                      MOA KIKUCHI ASTRALIS

                        120 for 1 point is pretty exceptional although i know why the extra leash from 3-4 is good cuz when you have guard no one can fight u anw so its practically a stun
                        and the 4th point in guard has a power spike for a period when the supports nuke are rank <4 so 2x nuke cant break it so its pretty good in some situations
                        i just feel like there are some games where 343 is optimal
                        http://www.dotabuff.com/players/121491464/matches?date=&hero=ember-spirit&skill_bracket=&lobby_type=&game_mode=&region=&faction=&duration=&timezone=Asia%2FSingapore
                        my 6.2k friend does 343 pretty often i tihnk
                        he also advocates 1 point sleight to outplay storms in lane

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                          Ghoul

                            Drum is core item on him he cant cast all of his skills at lvl 6 (3ulti) but drum gonna help you so much and since he probably wont get any tanky item ( maybe skadi only +45 min games ) you wil need it

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                                MOA KIKUCHI ASTRALIS

                                  "so basically if u have any 11 skill points, u ideally would ideally always want 2-4-4-1 as opposed to 3-3-3 which is what you would have at 11 with 3-4-3"

                                  343 with 1 point in ulti i meant

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                                    matrice

                                      240 or 300 damage ????
                                      lvl 3 has less dps, but more damage.

                                      Sof level 4 is not a waste, level 2 and 3 are, but level 4 is spammable, and almost no1 can sustain that harrass.

                                      a 2-4-0-1 build is decent, maxing the shield after it, but it's much much less farming way. Not really sure it's worth it unless you face 1v1 som1 that can burst your whole shield like np.

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                                      Polish Hussar

                                        My biggest tip to ember is..Ult is key in every game. You either need to ult and move back in a team fight (while in slight of fist) Or they are really low and you use ult to catch and kill. Ember is so weak on hp and armor best defense is a good offense. Or just buy skadi

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