General DiscussionEuls Sf

it speeds up ur farm and makes u regen mana for more razes

euls someone -> stand under him -> ult for max damage instakill

basically, eul-requiem combo is not the main reason to go euls. the greatest advatage of eul build is the fact that it increases your farm greately. not only additional movespeed, but also mana regeneration is very inportant. Not to mention that you can dodge lots of shit with euls.
all in all, if you fully understand SF, eul is always good; but sometimes even better than usual - against lina or storm, for example.

Yeah it does but when do u play him aggressively? SF often dies if he goes aggressive plus with my all lose streak with blink euls it n direly needs bkb ! 2850 + 2200 + 3975 gold to be decent isnt great. I really am intersted to win with this hero in pubs like the mufc player

its all about positioning and map awareness. you should know where everyone on the enemy team is if you want to play agressively.

Oh ok ty * this topic is not over moar analysis plox ty for the help if you ever decided to ^^*

Ok here is what i know about sf: Ppd has stated that euls sf is harder to kill than most builds, I have had more success playing euls sf with my unofficial team(I stomped with it) and it is really good for coordination and the proper draft. What I am really perplexed to know is that if this build is viable in pubs where the hero picks are not controlled? I am amazed at the people who continously win games with this build and I find it quite fun. But these are the problems I have with SF: Gankers, those who can go to you without a problem(pre-euls), the lack of dominance this build gives in the mid game as opposed to other popular mid heroes (TA, Storm,Qop) with just their staple items, the "SOLO" only dominance of this build. I dont really mind the fact that it has no dmg given and i use its mana regen well for quick farm but midas does this better plus with more xp. Plus with the fact that u need aquila to complement its mana regen to somewhat better than decent stage. TL;DR : How to win with it, its comparison to other builds, is it all for survivability and farm?, and arteezy used him a lot in DAC; is sf really 1st pick material?

midas is not amazing on sf because its a slot taken up and it slows down ur survivability item, euls IS your survivability item, and your farm item, and ur solo kill item. Its like having a shadow blade, a shitty manta, and a midas all in one

I always go Eul first item after bottle and boots. The move speed and regen speeds up your farm insanly + the active sets up your solo kill potential for a requiem or even sometimes a triple razes combo. It also cancels ennemy TPs because you lack stuns. Eul in general is so great anyways. Never get midas on SF, you 6 slot way too fast its a waste, i would rather go travel then midas. Eul is better than travel most of the time anyway. I try to delay my bkb a bit so i dont have a 5sec cd bkb at 25min when big team fights happen.

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Got one game guys, turns out I just needed to play super duper safe because SF's farming ability is great. I just farmed safely, joined fights when I know where the enemy is and took objectives ^^