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General DiscussionWhy is Mask of Madness considered so bad on Troll Warlord?

Why is Mask of Madness considered so bad on Troll Warlord? in General Discussion
Twisted

    So why can't Troll Warlord get a MoM for farming and play like a Juggernaut? Troll Warlord usually gets a form of lifesteal early or mid-game for farming purposes. Lategame a Satanic is king, early game, MoM will allow you to: farm the fastest, take Roshan the fastest and get around fastest.

    He can now make full use of the Mask's attack speed after the recent update and the movement speed allows you to move at hasted speed without Sange and Yasha. Though it does leave you squishier, it's mostly used in the jungle to get around and farm as fast as possible, it also makes you even faster at pushin and taking Roshan.

    If you were to use it 1v1 you'd become the ultimate bashlord with 650 attack speed with just a MoM and skills at level 25- still leaving room for other items to provide some agility/attack speed and not be wasted- this wouldn't have been possible in the previous patch where the attack speed was capped at 600.

    That being said, I'd probably never buy it, I just wanted to hear people's thoughts.

    casual gamer

      has science gone too far?

      BenaoLifedancer

        troll is good because of his armor

        notice how he doesnt die even though his hp is around 1000??

        BenaoLifedancer

          you do realize he stacked with low mmr noobs right?

          WickedSkengMan

            my bad

            Dire Wolf

              "That being said, I'd probably never buy it, I just wanted to hear people's thoughts."

              Well, there's your answer I guess. It's never going to be considered good until someone tries it.

              I think it'd probably work fine but troll doesn't really need it over standard dominator. He's already super fast with extra move speed from q and phase boots, even before yasha, and dominator has some nice other stats, dmg and armor. It's like what's better, more dmg multiplied by fervor or more bashes multiplied by mask o madness?

              Blackwolf

                you dont need Ms when you get 12-20min sny (522 with phases; 450ish all the time) and 9-13min yasha... also you need bkb due to dying to nuking. +30% dmg is like taking pure dmg from every spell (no 25% mag. resist) on your low hp ass. and mid-late game troll has no problems reaching max atack speed. you will sell mom anyways.

                if you go early game build; you go vlads+deso by around 16-20min...

                123

                  u cant take rosh with mom
                  at least not alone. think about it. what gives hotd? 1 buffed creep and armor (ignore hp regen for rosh aspect). creep can tank ~ 10 hits and armor gives u so much sustain against rosh
                  if u remove 5 armor and a tank creep with 5% more lifeleech u will get rekt. dont even think about activating it, will be impossible

                  the realm's delight

                    "you do realize he stacked with low mmr noobs right?"

                    6k bearforce = noob

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                    THICC BABY SHUM

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                                  BenaoLifedancer

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                                      Metallicize

                                        i should be up there, right next to MeGaPeniSss

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                                          TripleSteal-

                                            cz trolls are never mad, are u new to internets or what?

                                            Metallicize

                                              btw, why is basher considered so bad on Faceless Void?????????

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                                              casual gamer

                                                ^NOT IN DOTA 1 [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/DCWdOv5.png[/IMG]

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                                                  rich homie quan
                                                  u would been there if u didnt change ur name as much as chicks change underwear

                                                  Metallicize

                                                    nope, they don't

                                                    matrice

                                                      troll can gain over +300 as like np
                                                      so 400 as

                                                      400 + 100 --> +25%

                                                      So basically, you increase your dps by a portion inferior to the increase damage you are taking.

                                                      123

                                                        matrice why did u stop playing slark in pubs?

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                                                            LaViolete

                                                            阴茎

                                                              isnt he already like 500 ms with phases and sangeyasha so mom kinda useless

                                                              Dire Wolf

                                                                What matrice said was what I was trying to say. 20 dmg from dom multipled for times vs trolls base dmg multiplied once more, plus all the other benefits of dom, makes mom not seem worth it. I tried calculating the dps on the dota calc but couldn't get it to include his bashes.

                                                                YoreyC

                                                                  50/10=5
                                                                  5*a/s=n
                                                                  n+dps

                                                                  TripleSteal-

                                                                    correction to comments above
                                                                    afair, mom is the only item that can break the maximum attack speed threshold. it always gives 100% attack speed increase.

                                                                    5k, 6k are SUBHUMAN

                                                                      why would u need mom? you have 3 abilities that increase your attack speed and you get blown up by magic damage until you get bkb

                                                                      5k, 6k are SUBHUMAN

                                                                        like the only way i can rationalize mom is if i'm behind on farm and i need to catch up desperately

                                                                        Ming (Zufälliger König)

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                                                                          the more you know

                                                                          Twisted

                                                                            @rich homie quan
                                                                            If you could buy Abyssal on Faceless Void, it would be core.

                                                                            THICC BABY SHUM

                                                                              a stun on void is a core???
                                                                              nah u too drunk
                                                                              abysal blade is utility