General DiscussionTHIS IS WHY 3K IS SO HARD TO GET OUT

what you mean, are you even 3k? how do you get out of something u arent in?

3k is hard to get out of because: Let's face it, the reality;

Everybody suck. Yes, you suck. You're fucking horrible, and you don't realize it.

It's you to improve, not your team-mates. Realize that you suck, then you'll eventually improve.

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Why don't you ignore FanofEnvy and just try to look at constructive or things that'll let you help.

You need to be efficient to improve. This is not only in the game of DotA, but in real life.
You're spending your team answering some random guy that's trying to punch you down.
Fucking ignore him, or show him that you can get punched down, then stand up stronger than ever.
Not in form of making him realize how good you actually are, but growing better and stronger than him.

You're 3k because you're inefficient, lack experience, knowledge and execution. Your understanding of the game is bad, but in your mind it might good.

Watch a game you feel you did well, but lost.
Because of your understanding of the game, you'll probably not realize the most crucial mistakes (efficiency, how you move around the map, how you don't use your TP efficient, etc.)

However, you will realize some mistakes, that's for damn sure. Make sure you don't do these again, maybe you go up some houndreds. During this period you need to take in mind these things I've told you.

Experience, knowledge, execution and efficiency.

Don't move around the map unefficienct. Carry TP, help your team-mates in trouble and attend fights.
If not, go splitpush and use the time your team-mates feeds efficient to not fall behind, but get ahead.

3Ks are horrible at farming, so even if you're losing, you should pull ahead in farm (assuming you're better).

Get punched down, realize you suck, do something about it and grow stronger than your "haters"!

I dont understand why you want to get out of 3k tier... Its the best tier, it is both fun and competetive at the same time.

if u wanna get out go mid, play heroes like storm puck queen of pain, pudge and gank and win
im shit at those heroes but still managed to claw my way out

I can't even get into 3k, ive been stuck at 2895.. plus 25 minus 25

But he carried your @$$. why aren't u grateful?

I ghostpick brood, if they cry, I pick techies

eh i moved from 1600 to 3500 now and still going up slowly D:

Pudge and phantom assassin fighting over mid, pa gets mid.
http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/548641657284733634/8AAE5E019E02A8A79D70FB508025B7AA7C0C320B/
In the end...
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1072946222
Needless to say, Pa's ass got served by lina afterwards.

3k is easy to get out of. It all depends on the effort and how well you play.

Realizing that you suck is not enough to improve. I have long ago acknowledged that I suck hard, but I can't improve when I play so little and between frequent 5-6 days long periods without dota.

Having theoretical knowledge and being able to recognize and analyze your mistakes is good, fine and dandy but without putting it into practice, there's not going to be much improvement.

It's not hard. Getting out of 3k is easy. Getting out of 3.5k-3.9k range is a bit harder because you get matched against people from 4-4.1k thats been on a loosing streak recently.

Basicly, what I'm trying to say is that in range of 3.5 to 3.9k you can end up playing with all kind of players. However, with good patience and self-control, you'll get out of there with time.

Biggest problem is playing on tilt. I'm on 3615 at this moment just because of that.

You put all of your knowlage and time to get to the 4k, and when you start losing, you keep playing in tilt.

People in 3-3.3k are bad at laning, farming, aswell as in positioning and capitalizing on mistakes/taking advantage. However, that is often seen in high 3k aswell, and exploiting that is good way to climb if you're better.

Often, playing in lower then 3.4k i end up stomping u most of the time, or I'm able to get out of control later with SF, Slark or any decent mid hero.

its easy to get out of 3k. All you have to do is feed and you will eventually drop to 2k

3k is competitive ^^
i could win 1v5 with furion cliff, how's that competitive

@Mentalfruit the mighty
What is this rage all about? You won that match with 0/9/8 KDA.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1072587682

Those "trolls" actually carried you...