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General DiscussionAttacker! style kunkka feels really difficult to use...

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nami

    So I'm getting decimated at the 4.6k level(now down to 4.5k) with him. Even when I get a good start whenever I start building my bfury, things go downhill. I apparently suck at balancing the farm with the ganks.

    According to Attacker!, he gets bfury by 12-14 minutes. Meaning phase+bottle+bfury+whatever consumables+starting items. Basically its about 7.4k. To achieve 7.4k by 13 minutes with starting 625+1300 passive gold, you need to farm about 5.5k in 13 minutes which feels impossible to me. You can't even get that gold by getting a perfect creep score. You'd have to do that while jungling or scoring kills.

    In short, I don't think its a very good build unless you're immensely better than your opposing mid.

    So I'm off to try a more toned down version of Crystalis>Blink>Daedelus>Daedelus>Etc.

    Coco

      battlefury is not that good lol
      get shadowblade then critical damage

      Totentanz to The King: M ...

        14 min BF is really almost perfect. Even safelane farming AMs get Threads-BF at about 13 mins at best, there is no way a mid hero can farm that much on his own, there should be outside help. Also I don't think he gets it that fast every game anyway.

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        jo~

          perhaps u could stack camps with torrent no idea

          nami

            He says 12-14 minutes on average so... yeah.

            I do use torrent stacking. Without giving up lane farm, you get like one opportunity like per 2-3 minutes average. If you keep running off to stack, you'll lose out all easy gold from lane creeps.

            Regardless, I like crystalis into blink more after I just tried it. You don't lose out on farm that much because you can still 1 shot waves when you get daedelus and it lets me join fights much earlier. I don't think I'm good enough to go bfury like he does EVERY game.

            Terrible

              someone with plus can check his timings..

              but yeah, 12-14 minutes sounds like complete BS. AM with boots can get it in 11 minutes pure free farm, ~13 minutes w/treads. You can't get battlefury + bottle + phase in 12-14 minutes in anything but a game where you get a few kills/towers, which clearly is not an average game. Kunkka is also a hero that really should not be getting free farm either, usually he will miss ~1-2 cs/wave for the earlier waves against good opponents.

              I have no clue how to play kunkka myself, finding a balance between farming and ganking is actually really difficult like you said. I can farm really quick with him, farming is by far the aspect of the game that I excel in the most. Even though I can get full gear in 40 minutes, I just feel like im playing techies with x/dagger..

              Born

                he just gets kills man. that's how he snowballs.
                it'd not perfect farming skills.