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General Discussionis double rop start legit

is double rop start legit in General Discussion
jo~

    i see EE and bone7 do that for their safe lane/offlane quite often.
    thoughts?

    Hassan

      It's pretty nice on heroes with a lot of innate HP that also makes good use out of both rings like Jakiro

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      Kryptnyt

        Only if you are getting Basi and Tranquils. Even then, wards/courier/sufficient regen is more important most of the time. Sounds like a build you go if you have the random gold.

        Zahard

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpW_qbiu5vk
          THE OCEANS WHERE THEYLL FIND U

          Androgynous

            even if you use just one of the rings i think its still pretty good. ive seen ee only build one ring into something and leave the other one on its own, and then just sell the other one later, which is only a loss of 100g, still worth it. 300g for 6 armour, more than a chain mail

            THICC BABY SHUM

              go double blink it works i swear or money back garanteed. after selling 2 daggers u will get 2250 gold, price of a dagger 100% paid back.

              Androgynous

                2 blinks daggers on anti mage for maximum mobility

                THICC BABY SHUM

                  yah, so smart, text book dota how do you win vs that?

                  Zenoth

                    At 2 armour, 100 HP requires 118.1 physical damage.
                    At 5 armour, 100 HP requires 130.0 physical damage.
                    At 8 armour, 100 HP requires 147.9 physical damage.

                    Assuming base 2 armour, first RoP adds 12 HP for every 100 HP you have. A 600 HP hero gets 72 extra HP as a result.
                    Assuming base 2 armour, second RoP adds another extra 18 HP for every 100 HP you have. A 600 HP hero gets 108 extra HP as a result.

                    Assuming you sell both eventually, you are paying 200 gold for 180 HP against physical attacks on a 600 HP hero, while making regen more efficient at the same time.

                    THICC BABY SHUM

                      since we are talking about this what is better for lvl 1 io 3 armor or 3 strangth. as i want to lvl 1 roshwith ursa

                      Zenoth

                        3 armour.

                        THICC BABY SHUM

                          I guess next time i will try going (smoke, 2 slaves, 3 armor thingy, and branch)

                          Low Expectations

                            I think the better question is, is it better than stout shield?

                            Mokujin

                              It is better than stout on ranged heroes.
                              I watched a NEL game recently with Rtz going agressive trilane with Storm. He bought 2 RoP and you can't really kill a storm with 11 armour early on.

                              I think it's really effective and strong in certain scenarios but it's such a strange thing to do. Though I don't watch many games of EE but when I often notice the casual RoP as a value item ;)

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                              Low Expectations

                                I watched waga do it on offlane pudge, did it myself, it seems amazing. Doesnt block as much as stout but the the basi later is just too guud

                                Low Expectations

                                  Dunno if other melee benefits from it more than stout shield though

                                  Mokujin

                                    Basi/tranquils gives you armour + mana/hp regen passively
                                    Bottle gives you both mana and hp actively and encourages you to move on the map and make things happen (same idea as urn) and corresponds with the purpose of this hero.

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                                    Mokujin

                                      2 RoP is good on someone like Visage but definately not Pudge.
                                      Edit: unless you just want a tanky bastard

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                                      Hatsune Miku

                                        Abbadon good carrier of 2 rop

                                        Low Expectations

                                          ^^Tranquils+ basi + soulring and you have all you need on pudge