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npc

    seems like itd be good to get a faster level 16

    what do yall think

    Zahard

      xd

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        BenaoLifedancer

          watch some pre ti3 games... srsly people st fu everything you've taught about has been used (mostly, like this NOT RARE BUILD)

          Dipshit

            Why the hell do you even need 16 as bat >.>

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              Terror-Machine

                Well it might not be a good idea because you want blink or blink+force fast, midas would delay it so you would be kinda useless that way.

                Maybe after blink/force but then I dont think it'd be very beneficial at this point

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                jo~

                  i think if u get an early dagger it allows u to farm the outer camps of enemy nc and deeper lanes which sort of equals the early game exp and gold that midas gives, i havent tried it before though

                  Sōu ka

                    blink and force timing on bat are too fucking important and bots are really good too
                    guess if you really wanted to go for a fast sheep you could get a midas right before that one but otherwise most of bats items are really cheap (except for refresher but that's a 6th item so there's no place for midas anyway) and people usually get midas on 'uncharacteristic midas' heroes because it doesn't vastly decrease their impact on the game as well as item timings

                    like when you go for dagon 5 or sheep but build a midas before you probably end up getting both at about the same time but having an additional midas as well as extra xp

                    Rise

                      Its awful bat is centered around a blink dagger delaying this makes him much worse

                      Androgynous

                        get it after it then

                        Androgynous

                          ive seen demon get late midas on tidehunter before, plus i think on lycan

                          Totentanz to The King: M ...

                            Even if you wanna get it you should get it after dagger and that will generally be way too late to get a midas. Also bat is one of those heroes that spends most of his time ganking and at the rare times he isn't ganking he already farms fast enough to not need a midas.

                            ♨Dacheat♨

                              Blink is Bat's Midas. Get Blink and farm heroes every 90/75/60 seconds instead of farming creeps every 100.

                              BIG FAT DUCK

                                i don't think it's a good idea. bat can't make use of the extra attack speed so it's literally a 2050 cost recipe that gives you 190 gold every 100 seconds (never mind that if u use midas on a creep, you lose out on the original bounty; let's exclude that variable for now)

                                Yes, you will get additional EXP but with the cost of midas you could easily get a force staff instead which will a) enhance your survivability b) allow you to net kills you otherwise wouldn't. even an ultimate orb to build toward sheepstick is superior

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                                Kryptnyt

                                  "bat can't make use of the extra attack speed"
                                  That's not entirely true thanks to Sticky Napalm, but even Mask of Madness is gonna be way better than midas