General DiscussionGetting in top 100 for a hero

Something to do with mmr bracket, win rate, amount of matches, kda ratio

you cant. 60% winrate in high skill lmao

High skill is party mm w/2k.
Go matches and filter by VHS ranked lobbies.

I think it also counts avg KDA/GPM as important factors.

Highest hero score that i got is 5300, and only on 98th percentile(templar assassin)
Seems difficult to achieve though

winrate * division * kda * matches played

division (mmr bracket counting the mmr of team and enemy) plays the largest part, playing solo 4.5 (diamond 5~) i reach top 50+ on arc yet party 3900 (platinum 9) im not up there at all

^division varies though, my ta is on diamond 9, yet im not 4.9k

ya when i was 4300 i was playing diamond 9 yet at 4500-4600 i was like diamond 4
this is STRAYA though so theres a 2k gap in every game so the division is autism

from the looks of it with ta you need 1000+ matches or professional division, or like a 15.00 kda which is ridiculous

So, you either play a shitton of games, play against preset players or tryhard insanely.
Got it.
I got 218th on Opendota, but it's a different ranking system.

It's like an incentive to get better, don't get me wrong.

if u play in shitty bracket when u party up with ur friends, it still decreases ur ranking by a lot, no matter what hero u picked there

you need at least like high 4k sol ommr and like 600+ matches to be in top 100

and besides, db's top 100 is fucking awful.

opendota top 100 is what truly matters

How does Opendota even calculate your rankings? Because it says I'm ranked 184th on SB despite honestly being kind of a mediocre spammer at him.

first ember spirit is aui (and a lot of other heroes) while he doesnt even expose data since 2k15

opendota looks at mmr primarily

and resets quaterly

while dotabuff is just ridiculous., some 4k kid with 2k mathces on a hero somehow gets to be better than a 6k+ player with 200, lmao?

Checked out of curiosity, I am ranked 212nd Brood @ Opendota, but idk, I felt more like maybe I am in top 500 at best.
Don't know, how it's calculated at Opendota, but obviously in some different way.

Dotabuff Rankings consider a number of factors on a per-game basis. I truly understand that someone can complain about them - there are a number of edge cases that it doesn't solve for: pro player rankings are inflated, playing with friends can have a negative impact on your ranking, etc. With that said, there is significant amount of nuance to how they are calculated, and we have a pretty sophisticated system in place to ensure some semblance of fairness.

@Cookie, that's just silly. The OpenDota rankings are literally scored by 1 line of SQL that uses "matches_won * solo_mmr_right_now". This approach is extremely naive and is biased in a number of ways. Plot it with a few input scenarios and you'll see what I mean.

@camcorder

explain why im not in top 100 with my highest win rate , highest kda riki and highest mmr account.

https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/riki/players

while two of other accounts are in dotabuff top 100.

current 89th and 87th are my accounts.

they all have higher number of games, thats all.

this ging san

opendota 11th
maxdota 21th

@jason

somehow such a simple system gives a more reliable output than the one we have
smthng must be very wrong here, eh?

@Jason

Let's be clear here, you know as well as us that dotabuff rankings are full of shit. Either fix it or stfu.