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General DiscussionArc Warden tips pls ok thank

Arc Warden tips pls ok thank in General Discussion
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    1. Which is better, AS talent or CD reduction talent? I feel that sometimes 8% is kind of negligible tbh. Only matters with items that have long cds like BoTs or Necromicon but other than that it doesn't feel quite impactful on my other actives

    Who the fuck buys Necro book on AW anyway

    2. What kinds of scenarios would it be more ideal to send out just the clone on teamfights? I sometimes feel that I should be sending out both my main and my clone on teamfights but I'm kind of too unexperienced to crate good judgements tbh. It doesn't really help that AW walks like a fucking turtle on narcotics.

    3. Is Bloodthorne+Null too greedy? Which build is more viable in what scenario? (Talking about DPS build vs 6 item active builds where you feel like you just fucking fried your brain after the game)

    Clippy

      Hi I've only played arc warden like 2 or 3 times but here's my unwanted advice.

      CD reduction is better, because even tho it's only 8% you literally have two of every item with this hero so ya know... double midas...

      Necro book seems good since again, you get two of them, so you can push like a madman.

      During big teamfights send both because it does nutty damage having basically 6 heroes in a fight.

      As for what item build to go, I haven't a fucking clue.

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      supp0rt picker

        im have 100 game AW at 4kmmr .
        1. at lv 10 u got 3 wrap bane pluz brown boot and midas + 30 agi (?) , so basical u got 90% as , if u take 30% as talen , u got total 120% as. At that poin , most of ur dame still come from skill 1 and 3 . late game u can got minojin and butterfly or cuirass so u dont need that 30% as much. 8% CD reduce look very bad compare to other hero like sniper (25% CD reduce) but i still chose it because : at lv 18 ur unti live 18s and CD 40s , if u take 8% CD ur unti live 18s and CD 36.5s . shorter cd on midas , miojin, hex, tp , shadow blade....
        and necro 1 book is good if u take it as ur first item , u can push or simple farm more with it , because necro warrior farm crep so fast. then u buy midas then miojin then travel then .... . u have to end game with 30k network. i build it if my team have bad pushing line up.
        2. if enemy dive tower and hunt ur team mate -> sent ur tempet . IF u have got force staff or shadow blade -> sent ur self too because u will hard to take down.
        3. u can build bloodthorn and hex in most case i believe .

        Shm1l:)

          8% cd is better cause you will get as anyway. And you can go full cast items.
          If you put something like 15% cd reduction hero will be to broken.
          I don` t want to repeat like Supp0rt picker. He got right.

          Ritsu x boni = 0 IQ

            Necrobook lvl 1 is for farm, then go midas.

            kuci

              ^^this guy arc warden is fucking scary

              JDF8

                Is Bloodthorne+Null too greedy?

                absolutely not.

                (in siege) clone only if they have heroes out of vision who can kill you if they jump you, that have blink or equivalent skill. once they burn blinks and uve disabled dangerous people walk ur main in

                i always take cdr because imo its generally better. better map pressure and quicker timings, more casts in fights. benefit of ias is that you are moderately more likely to get solo picks which is actually pretty important

                not a pussy

                  im playing arc warden recently and from what i knew, 8% cd reduction is really helpful when i tried to kill my enemy, the 3rd skill is slightly faster (obviously lmao), and even topson/miracle build necronomicon for their AW. for better farm, better push. but i didnt build necro cause my lack skill of micro. when facing heavy nuker enemy, after building midas-BoT-maelstorm usually i will go to hurricane/sb-bloodthorn. i never use null/hex until i really need to build it (its bad maybe). after that i will focus on defend item like bkb or linkens or aeon disk. you can sell your midas later for dmg items like daedalus (if u didnt build bloodthorn) or if they got escape hero and i need better stats i will go skadi, but if they got something tanky i feel better to go deso. its just my opinion because i feel like you can build every item on this hero. just go whatever you feel needed and comfortable to use. (for me its necronomicon bcs i cant use it properly and efficiently).

                  im still learning too, maybe there is a better player will leave you some better tips.

                  A Wild Pikachu Has Appeared!

                    i prefer the 30 attack speed over 8% reduction, it really helps to accelerate your farm. and nowadays arc dont go nerco anymore, it just sucks, you rather go threads, midas , mael etc
                    From a arc warden player

                    JDF8

                      take this guys advice over mine^^ way better player

                      ubica

                        what is the most effective way to micro this hero? any genius key bindings?

                        JDF8

                          lol just 1 hero 2 unit 3 both. for necro u need 4 for necro creeps and i would not include them in 3

                          u just use the tab button, get used to lots of actives. after a while it's pretty easy but make sure ur not forgetting to use mj active and ur spells

                          quest to questing

                            i have 126 games on arc, im 5.4k.

                            1. cdr talent if you want to be greedy and think it'll pay off but majority of the time, the aspd makes a huge difference. because of his dogshit attackspeed if you opt for cdr, you need to wait for several items before your right click actually hurts...

                            2. just send the clone most of the time. your main hero is best off farming or splitpushing. the exceptions are when you're being relied on to deal with tough enemies that require double orchid/double hex OR if you have bkb already. this is what I recommend unless you are really good with the hero and micro, in which case playing them both together makes you obviously much stronger. however this can be very punishable if you don't know what you're doing and i much recommend you to play a more simple style.

                            3. bloodthorne + null is dogshit against good enemies. the problem with nullifier is the projectile speed is horrendously slow. most of the time it's much better to get a hex. i only recommend nullifier if: 1. your team has a reliable way to catch the enemy for you to guarantee nullifier hitting them. 2. you need it urgently and can't wait for a hex which is simply much better cuz it gives a guaranteed disable, hp, aspd, mana regen for wraith spam at 25 and etc.

                            the itemization and playstyle of this hero is very situational. you can turtle and get 6 slotted, you can go necrobook for fast jungle farm, you can opt for blink to play aggresively (this requires you to control both main hero and clone at the same time to work well)

                            personally i like blink into orchid and playing a hyper aggressive arc warden unless the game is a guaranteed win for playing full farm mode because my lineup outscales theirs

                            i have 5 reports to use

                              master arc warden tips right there. i agree bloodthrone null is trash hex= item of boosters on any hero

                              mynhauzen

                                Aw spammer here. +8% is better with necro+Midas build, I get 30% if I get only Midas. 8% is required late game. 30% is good when you’re trying to end early.

                                2. Almost always. Use your main only if it’s 5v5 and it stays behind and uses sparks until you know for a fact the fight will be won - this is when you come out.

                                3. It’s not greedy if you build it for a reason. With it you can destroy 1v1 almost anyone with just ulti. If you’re planning to have it at 30-35, and you need long disables - get it. Hex is just not ideal late game and you need both heroes with it. There are some matchups you need it. I like it vs heroes like ursa, pa, that will get bkb and will absolutely destroy you with bkb cause of low speed projectiles

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                                No need to Try Hard

                                  This hero is shit. Especially with your stupido friendo who always lose both side lanes. Better pick ember, win all the lanes.

                                  A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘

                                    I just checked with Cookie yesterday and Arc Warden sucks and he is garbage this meta.
                                    He saved me from mmr as well, ty cookie.

                                    @OP: Dont play arc, just play ck or naxe.