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General DiscussionIs MKB necessary against a Phantom assassin?

Is MKB necessary against a Phantom assassin? in General Discussion
Torey

    The last game i was in I played void and I never had an issue fighting phantom assassin without it, but my team kept telling me during the game to buy which even though I did to avoid reports (because i just got out of low prio because of connection issues). It just really seems that to only buy mkb to fight phantom assassin late game that we were already losing because we never pushed as a team has no real purpose. Is the price of mkb actually worth the value it gives me in that game? I already had good items and i couldnt even decide what item to get rid of once i got it because everything i had had some kind of good use.

    Sooooooo is Mkb even really that good of an item for its true strike and mini bash on a hero that has a 25% bash?

    Autumnus

      Depends

      Jacked

        well if your other 4 carries can buy mkb, u dont really need to. lol. people like to priortize PA a lot in low mmr because of multiple phy carries with no farm and PA rapes everyone. PA-1k-PTSD

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        Jacked

          silver edge works

          dead

            Depends

            Autumnus

              Or you can ask someone to build solar crest. People tend to rush mkb against pa, sad

              Torey

                I know it depends and thats why in this match i though i didnt need it and I told them maybe sniper should buy it because he sits in the back lines anyways but look at his build, and you can tell me anything wrong with mine too. And actually now that I think about it i wouldve liked silver edge alot this game

                https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3326326539

                dead

                  HOW DO YOU LOSE TO A PA THAT GOT DESO @29 MIN

                  Shou

                    Thing is rushing mkb sometimes works against pa cuz they play super over confident and have zero respect for the enemy, so if u have money at 25 min they will just rush in and die. That being said if they have a brain it's bad.

                    Autumnus

                      Your teammates were wrong, sniper is dumb and alche is a slow farmer, oracle bought too much sents instead of gem

                      Dire Wolf

                        attacking pa with solar crest is still like attacking someone with butterly, around 35% evasion still. I'd say get it, usually but in your game it's a better pick up on sniper.

                        RIP

                          well if you invest into MKB then you just invested 5k+ gold into something that doesnt increase your survivability at all, so pa can just blow you up ez if you get disabled for a few seconds.

                          one-man bukake

                            silver edge gives more utility and if your team can focus her during the break she is just an overconfident big creep

                            one-man bukake

                              and what the fuck is thst three stack gettiing 3 desos lol

                              StanceWorks

                                @金輪際-
                                Thats when you need a competent team to disable her when get targeted....

                                Good luck finding that in pubgames.

                                0ddFella

                                  honestly mkb is a luxury item that you might wanna get to close out the game. Playing against pa as void silver edge should do the trick IMO.

                                  Shou

                                    Both silver edge and bloodthorn r better imo

                                    MonkaS

                                      How about magic damage ? Tinker shit ?

                                      주 롄양

                                        shud gitgud at deff hg

                                        Anomaluna

                                          1. Percentage based damage.
                                          2. BKB piercing disables.
                                          3. Pure damage.
                                          4. Hex + bloodthorn/silver edge before allowing BKB usage.
                                          5. *Heaven's halberd.

                                          evy

                                            It depends
                                            Why are you listening to a bunch of scrubs anyway

                                            Player 281121816

                                              Damn, this kiddo just lose against jungle lc

                                              Lol kids these day

                                              AomineDaiki-

                                                u end the game too long, and i do understand that ur team doesnt want to push. But if your team doesnt want to push i wonder what do they do in those 30 min. cause those item progression is a little bit slow, alch has radiance at 27 min, while sniper only has wind lace, boots, shadow blade and dragon lance at the 30 min mark. Enchant is not rich at all. Also i do understand that maybe u think that sniper will build a silver edge, so u got ur dmg items instead (diffu, mjollnir,manta). But that is not happening and i dont know why. i know that the pa has deso at 29 min, but your alch and snip also has nothing at that point. idk thats just my opinion tho, that alch and snip ned to farm that cost u the game i think, and snip really needs good itemisation. If that snip go for silver edge, i think mkb is a last item choice for u cause u already do alot of dmg, but if he do not consider a silver edge, maybe u should consider one :). Goodluck at grinding mmr!

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                                                烟雨花

                                                  for void silver edge is better in this case.
                                                  u can kill pa with 1st hit him to break passive, then chrono.
                                                  there is sure kill if no one cover pa outside chrono.

                                                  Desolate

                                                    if hes having good farm and kills,yes if ur team is leeding would rather go silver or orchid/bloodthorn

                                                    but late game you should have MKB vs pa

                                                    Riguma Borusu

                                                      the enemy team had 3 desolators